Saturday, May 26, 2012

Trumped charges against Ven. Loun Sovath and the ridiculous promise he was forced to sign

Op-Ed: KI Media

Trumped up charges against Ven. Loun Sovath: On 14 February 2012, Ven. Loun Sovath was accused of [receiving] a call from the Lotus Revolution movement to free Cambodia and the Cambodian population in 2012. He is also accused of owning photos and CDs showing the actions of Sourn Serey Ratha. He is also accused on participating in a KPPM [led by Sourn Serey Ratha] meeting in the US on 16 May 2011.

Trumped up charges against Ven. Loun Sovath: On 14 February 2012, Ven. Loun Sovath was accused of incitement to crime in Phnom Penh and overseas in 2011.

Trumped up charges against Ven. Loun Sovath: On 19 March 2012, Ven. Loun Sovath was accused of incitement for crime in Phnom Penh and overseas in 2011.

On 24 May 2012, Ven. Loun Sovath was forced to sign this ridiculous promise which violates his freedom rights.


  1. How could somebody force somebody to do something. Not to lie means not to lie, that is a simply thing.

    So why is he lying? Or is that he is not aware of his own actions (forced intention, what ever that should be?) a lie?

    There is no indicator that there is any propose higher that one can call him self a disciple of the Buddha while breaking a basic rule.

    Stop to take part in such games, a disciple of the Buddha would understand action and reaction and take the way out.

  2. Mr. Hanzze;

    Be more civil in your speech although you are in the stage of againsting someone else.

    What is the chapter of law in civilized countries (including Cambodia if I can say) has practiced like Cambodia, forcing one person to sign a paper whose conscience and agreement is not on the mood? Or that person has no legal representative for her/him?

  3. How moves his hand?

    "Monks, even if bandits were to carve you up savagely, limb by limb, with a two-handled saw, he among you who let his heart get angered even at that would not be doing my bidding. Even then you should train yourselves: 'Our minds will be unaffected and we will say no evil words. We will remain sympathetic, with a mind of good will, and with no inner hate. We will keep pervading these people with an awareness imbued with good will and, beginning with them, we will keep pervading the all-encompassing world with an awareness imbued with good will — abundant, expansive, immeasurable, free from hostility, free from ill will.' That's how you should train yourselves.

    "Monks, if you attend constantly to this admonition on the simile of the saw, do you see any aspects of speech, slight or gross, that you could not endure?"

    "No, lord."

    "Then attend constantly to this admonition on the simile of the saw. That will be for your long-term welfare & happiness."

    Kakacupama Sutta

    If there's no wound on the hand,
    that hand can hold poison.
    Poison won't penetrate
    where there's no wound.
    There's no evil
    for those who don't do it.

    — Dhp 124

    "Because of having wrongly inflicted suffering on another person through beating or imprisonment or confiscation or placing blame or banishment, [with the thought,] 'I have power. I want power,' when told what is factual, he denies it and doesn't acknowledge it. When told what is unfactual, he doesn't make an ardent effort to untangle it [to see], 'This is unfactual. This is baseless.'"

    — AN 3.69

    Regarding the feeling of protection by the robe:

    "Those who engage in bodily misconduct, verbal misconduct, & mental misconduct leave themselves unprotected. Even though a squadron of elephant troops might protect them, a squadron of cavalry troops, a squadron of chariot troops, a squadron of infantry troops might protect them, still they leave themselves unprotected. Why is that? Because that's an external protection, not an internal one. Therefore they leave themselves unprotected. But those who engage in good bodily conduct, good verbal conduct, & good mental conduct have themselves protected. Even though neither a squadron of elephant troops, a squadron of cavalry troops, a squadron of chariot troops, nor a squadron of infantry troops might protect them, still they have themselves protected. Why is that? Because that's an internal protection, not an external one. Therefore they have themselves protected."

    — SN 3.5

    Don't forget that is are truth for both part, it just seems that it would be more understandable for one who calls him self a monk, as for the one who understand, there will be a chance.

    Monk or layman? An easy question which solves much problem. For one who likes to struggle and for one who likes to get free from struggle.
    If one likes to struggle and he walks the way of those who like to leave struggle he will not have a good base as it is the opposite.
    If one needs to learn about the first, secound and third noble truth, its nonsense to focus on the fourth, he will not understand.

  4. Dear Hanzze;

    Life or living a life is about "struggle". Have you ever since that life is not struggling?

    When you are living a daily life with your career, work or family; those are things you have struggle.

    This struggle has been used by Lord Buddha as "mindfulness" or "heedfulness". Last advice of Lord Buddha is encouraging us not to stop struggling.


  5. Dhammaduta,

    like always you have nice ideas. What do you think is a holy life for, to get more defilement or a possibility to get the mind and the conscience more clear.

    A struggle be used to as mindfulness... I am not sure if you know what you are talking about.
    We use mindfulness and appamada to observe struggling (dependent origin) but usually more and more on a more subtitle level. Not different. From raw to fine, that means we need to change our livelihood into one which is more silent, so that we can go deeper layer by layer.

    What you do is simply the opposite as well as you invite people to walk against the eightfold path. If one is to silly to understand that and does not keep the rules made for people who do not have good capacity to understand the way a little, then there is no more base for anything.

    A robe is no protection to make one self a joke, but virtue would be a protection, even one does not understand Dhamma and its way yet.

  6. Friend in Dhamma,

    People around the world right now is struggling to keep their breath alive. Comparing from personal life, to social live, it is no different.

    Lord Buddha embarked his journey to struggle against evil, defilement and craving...especially the ignorance of the people in our society.

    His struggle finally shed light to millions of people.

    Social injustice which embraced Venerable Loun Sovath to walk that path, a path that no one including Ven. Loun Sovath himself doesn't want to walk...but when society is so injustice, the good man cannot close his eyes.